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This Is What Robert Pattinson's Batman Would Look Like In The 'Joker' Universe

There's dark, and then there's 'Joker' dark.

While we know that Robert Pattinson’s Batman won’t actually do a crossover with Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker, that doesn’t mean we can’t imagine what he’d look like in that R-rated universe.

Australian-based digital artist Mizuri has created some artwork of what Pattinson would look like if Matt Reeves’ The Batman was in any way inspired by Joker.

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He shared the artwork on Instagram and wrote, “Should [The Batman] be Rated R like Joker? After seeing the masterpiece that was Joker, it really showed a new and exciting look at comic book movies, and set the bar super high for future films.

“That being said, I’m really hyped for Batman specifically, and I’m hoping for it to be a really gritty and mature film much like Joker. What are your thoughts on this? Here’s a little artwork I did displaying this. Enjoy!”

Of course, there’s dark and then there’s Joker dark, so it’ll be interesting to see where Reeves takes The Batman and if he’s inspired at all by Todd Philips’ film.

Reeves has previously told THR that his film will be a “noir Batman tale”.

“It’s very much a point of view-driven, noir Batman tale. It’s told very squarely on his shoulders, and I hope it’s going to be a story that will be thrilling but also emotional,” he explained.

“It’s more Batman in his detective mode than we’ve seen in the films. The comics have a history of that. He’s supposed to be the world’s greatest detective, and that’s not necessarily been a part of what the movies have been.

“I’d love this to be one where when we go on that journey of tracking down the criminals and trying to solve a crime, it’s going to allow his character to have an arc so that he can go through a transformation.”

Pattinson previously told Variety what it was like to put the costume on for the first time for the final stages of auditions.

He described is as “maybe the craziest thing I’ve ever done in terms of movie stuff”.

“I put it on. I remember saying to Matt, ‘It does feel quite transformative!’ He was like, ‘I would hope it does! You’re literally in the Batsuit.’”

“You do feel very powerful immediately. And it’s pretty astonishing, something that is incredibly difficult to get into, so the ritual of getting into it is pretty humiliating. You’ve got five people trying to shove you into something. Once you’ve got it on, it’s like, ‘Yeah, I feel strong, I feel tough, even though I had to have someone squeezing my butt cheeks into the legs.’”

I cannot wait to see Pattinson all suited up!

Todd Philips Might Not Want A 'Joker' Sequel, But Joaquin Phoenix Is Keen AF

"I can’t stop thinking about it."

Joker director Todd Philips has made it known that his movie is a one-off character study on the Joker and he has no plans for a sequel, but Joaquin Phoenix seems to have other ideas.

Speaking with IGN, Philips said, “We have no plans for a sequel. We always pitched it as one movie, and that’s it.”

According to CinemaBlend, Philips has also explained how his movie isn’t connected to the wider DCEU.

“It’s not really connected to that [DC Movie] Universe. And it was really intentionally not.

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“I mean the original idea when I went to [Warner Bros.] with the idea was not just about one movie, but about a label – sort of a side label to DC, where you can do these kind of character study, low-rent, low-budget movies, where you get a filmmaker to come in and do some deep dive into a character.

“So it was never meant to connect, so I don’t see it connecting to anything in the future. I think this is just this movie, you know?”

Phoenix, who played the Joker, however, isn’t quite ready to close the door on the character.

In an interview on Popcorn with Peter Travers, Phoenix said he hasn’t been able to stop thinking about the Joker role and what the future might bring.

“You know, I wouldn’t have thought about this as my dream role. But now, honestly, I can’t stop thinking about it,” Phoenix said.

“I talked to Todd a lot about what else we might be able to do, in general, just to work together, but also specifically, if there’s something else we can do with Joker that might be interesting. So, it ended up being a dream role. It’s nothing that I really wanted to do prior to working on this movie.”

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Travers tells Phoenix it’s a surprise to hear him say that as he famously turned down the role of Marvel’s Doctor Strange because it would have meant signing a multi-movie deal.

“I don’t know that there is [more to do],” Phoenix said. “Me and Todd would still be shooting now if we could, right? Because it seemed endless, the possibilities of where we can go with the character.”

Travers then asks if he’s dreamed of being in a scene with Batman, but Phoenix was quick to shut that down, “No, I haven’t had that dream.”

The way the film ends could be a set up for a sequel as he indirectly sets a young Bruce Wayne on the path to becoming Batman. And with Robert Pattinson’s The Batman coming out in 2021 fans have been hoping to see the two characters meet, but it doesn’t look like that’ll be the case – especially because Phoenix’s Joker would be too old to fight Pattinson’s Batman.

But hey, we can dream, right (even if Joaquin doesn’t)?

'Joker' Star Explains Why That Thomas Wayne Twist Was So Important

"I was very surprised when I read the twist."

Warning: Major spoilers for Joker ahead!

When Thomas Wayne (Brett Cullen) first appears in Joker, it seems as though he will only play a small part in the film, helping to make you feel like you’re really in Gotham City.

Wayne is running for mayor and is so far removed from Arthur Fleck’s (Joaquin Phoenix) world it doesn’t seem like the pair will have much of a connection other than the fact Arthur’s mother once worked for the Wayne family.

However, things take a significant turn when Arthur finds out he may be the illegitimate son of Thomas Wayne. Brett Cullen, who played Wayne in the film, was just as surprised to find out about the twist, however, notes it was very important that it was included in the film.

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Cullen revealed to The Hollywood Reporter that he spoke to director Todd Philips about the connection and Philips explained that it was a way to explain Joker’s hatred for the Wayne family, but in a way that the audience would sympathise with him.

“I was very surprised when I read the twist. I went to Todd and asked, ‘Are we playing this the way I think we’re playing this’ Todd responded with, ‘What would be a compelling reason for the Joker to hate Batman so much?’

“The idea that the Joker is an illegitimate child that didn’t get anything from the Wayne family is a very compelling motivation for his character’s hatred. This movie makes you feel for Arthur, when you see him struggling with his mother. And she’s saying, ‘Go see Thomas Wayne, he’ll help us. He’s a good man.’ It’s gut-wrenching.”

We later find out that Arthur isn’t actually Wayne’s son and that his mother had been suffering from mental illness. There is then evidence that Arthur was actually adopted and had been abused for much of his childhood.

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The audience is left to question the truth of Arthur’s parentage, but Cullen revealed he approached his performance as if the affair was real and added that he believes Wayne was responsible for having Arthur’s mother committed to Arkham Asylum.

“I asked Todd how Thomas Wayne would’ve know Arthur’s mother. The backstory was that Arthur’s mother had worked for Thomas in his home, and she was a beautiful woman who Thomas was attracted to and it led to a physical relationship… Later in life, she’s in and out of mental institutions. And in my mind, Thomas Wayne put her there.”

Very interesting!

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