Turns Out Thor Almost Had A Very Different And Far Less Funny Part In Avengers: Endgame

The final version of Thor in Endgame is perfect and no one can convince me otherwise.




There were a lot of interesting character arcs in Avengers: Endgame but arguably the most eyecatching – and certainly the funniest – was Thor’s storyline.

To quickly sum it up, the God of Thunder starts off mega-pissed that he didn’t kill Thanos when he had a chance in Infinity War and after realising they can’t undo the snappening, he descends into a pit of guilt and depression in which he goes from buff superhero to something resembling the Dude from The Big Lebowski, complete with beard and beer gut. While the gut ends up staying, Thor eventually finds his resolve again after a heart-to-heart with his late mother, Frigga, thanks to Endgame‘s time travel manipulations.

It’s a very dramatic and comedic arc that many didn’t expect, yet it worked exceedingly well for the character and Chris Hemsworth sold the hell out of fat Thor. However there was a point where the God of Thunder nearly had a completely different storyline in Endgame that would’ve been far less emotionally impactful and far less funny.

Key word – almost.

Chatting to FandangoEndgame co-screenwriter Stephen McFeely revealed that before they settled on the final idea of Thor going back in time to 2013 to Asgard with Rocket Raccoon in order to steal the Reality Stone, they were originally going to pair him up with Tony Stark.

The reasoning behind this is because they liked the whole magic vs science idea with Tony in Asgard, the potential fun they could’ve had with Iron Man taking on Thor’s BFF, Idris Elba‘s Heimdall, and the fact that the Reality Stone and Space Stone were both in Asgard at the same time.

This was ultimately scrapped as the 2012 setting during the first Avengers movie was a better backdrop for the Space Stone and we ended up with Rocket and Thor, which is the far funnier duo than Tony and Thor TBH.

“Our first draft was a version where Tony and Thor go to Asgard, because I like the idea of Tony going, like, in theory going to Asgard and seeing science versus magic, and stuff like that. And then he fought Heimdall, who could of course see him even though Tony had an invisible stealth suit on or something.”

Close enough.

There were also a bunch of other complications with the original idea for Thor’s Endgame storyline. Co-writer Christopher Markus said that they originally had Endgame fat Thor come fact-to-face with ripped Dark World Thor but that would’ve been way too confusing as it meant introducing three different versions of the God of Thunder in the same movie.

While we saw Jane Foster for a brief moment before Rocket knocked her out (we assume since we actually don’t see what happens), there were initially more extended scenes featuring Thor’s former girlfriend but these were ultimately cut in favour of having more heartfelt moments between Thor and his mother before she dies.

“There were longer ones, but they … you know you wound up before Thor and his mother was so rich and so on point in terms of what he needed to learn that in already a three-hour movie we couldn’t really have a long scene between, say, Rocket and Jane, because, again, it’s drifting off of the character stories that we wanted to tell.”

It was the right decision in the end as while having fat Thor meet up with Jane would be pretty funny, it would’ve lacked the emotional heft we got from Thor getting reassurance from his mother.

We got the closure we missed out on 6 years ago.

So while it certainly would’ve been interesting to have fat Thor and Tony trade banter on Asgard while coming face-to-face with Dark World Thor and Heimdall, the final product of fat Thor and Rocket coming face-to-face with Frigga ultimately worked out far better.

As for where this all leaves Thor now that he’s given the Asgard crown to Valkyrie and  joined up with the Guardians of the Galaxy at the end of Endgame, well no one really knows as both McFeely and Markus kept their lips sealed.

Guess we’ll just have to wait until Guardians of the Galaxy 3 to find out.

The Conspiracy Behind Avengers: Endgame's 'I Love You 3000' Line Will Make You Fugly Cry

If this is true, then this is probably the greatest Easter egg/conspiracy ever.




Avengers: Endgame is the latest Marvel film to offer up the studio’s usual schtick of somehow combining quippy lines with gutwrenching emotional moments to great effect, and boy did it knock it out of the park.

From the opening sequence of Clint Barton‘s family getting dusted to Scott Lang being reunited with his daughter five years after his disappearance, the waterworks were on overdrive this time around. But arguably the biggest tearjerking moment comes from Tony Stark‘s infant daughter, Morgan.

Early in the film, Tony is tucking her into bed and she tells him, “I love you 3,000.” It’s a heartwarming moment that gets cranked up a notch at the end when everyone is watching Tony’s will after his death and he tells Morgan (and us, by extension), “I love you 3,000.”

Sorry, gotta go wipe a few tears away.

In a film filled with fantastic moments, the relationship between Tony and Morgan and their telling each other that they love each other 3,000 is one of Endgame‘s highlights. But what appears to be randomly selected number may actually be an incredibly well-hidden Easter egg by the filmmakers.

Some folk on the internet have decided to add up the runtimes of all 22 released MCU films, giving us a total of 2,871 minutes. While the runtime for upcoming Spider-man: Far From Home has yet to be confirmed, there are murmurs that it will clock in at about 129 minutes, which fits pretty well with the average MCU movie length.

Assuming that is true, then the total runtime of all confirmed MCU films will give us… 3,000.

Holy. Crap.

We did the legwork and math ourselves, and we also get 3,000 ( taking into account some minor discrepancies and assuming Far From Home is indeed 129 minutes long) so there is a possibility the Russo brothers are indeed playing some some serious conspiracy-level head games with us.

Whether or not this was a coincidence (and it looks too neat to be), it feels pretty fitting for Tony Stark to say this as some sort of coded goodbye to all the fans who have stuck with him since Iron Man way back in 2008.

There’s undoubtedly going to be a new Iron Man at some point but we’re going to miss you 3,000, Tony Stark and Robert Downey Jr.

We Almost Didn't Get Tony Stark's Finest Moment In Avengers: Endgame

You know what they say, the best things happen at the last possible second.




Avengers: Endgame may be over three hours long but it uses the time really well as it was stuffed with enough showstopping moments (like the “she’s got help” scene) to make fans weep with joy.

But of all the film’s many highlights, arguably the finest moment belongs to Tony Stark.

At the end of the film, he manages to wrestle the Infinity Stones off Thanos at the last moment before ending the Mad Titan’s rampage with a click of his fingers and his most infamous quip, “I am Iron Man.”

It’s a brilliant scene that brings Tony’s story full circle as that was the exact line he used to announce himself to the world at the end of the very first Marvel film that kicked off this incredible cinematic journey, Iron Man.

But funnily enough, we almost didn’t get this fantastic little moment as it came about as an afterthought in the editing room.

You certainly are.

According to SlashfilmEndgame directors Anthony and Joe Russo revealed at a Q&A event that Tony’s final big moment wasn’t scripted and only came about when they were trying to get the epic final battle to work in the editing room.

“Tony used to not say anything in that moment. And we were in the editing room going, ‘He has to say something. This a character who has lived and died by quips.’ And we just couldn’t, we tried a million different last lines.

“Thanos was saying ‘I am inevitable.’ And our editor Jeff Ford, who’s been with us all four movies and is an amazing storyteller, said ‘Why don’t we just go full circle with it and say I am Iron Man.’ And we’re like, ‘Get the cameras! We have to shoot this tomorrow.’”

It’s a good thing that the Russos had Jeff Ford around for this little brainwave as it was the perfect encapsulation of Tony Stark’s character and it makes his final sacrifice all the more powerful.

It also seems like the universe agreed with Ford on this one as it turns out Endgame‘s “I am Iron Man” moment was shot at the same studio where Robert Downey Jr. first auditioned for the role of Tony Stark some 12 to 13 years ago.

Talk about a full circle.

The MCU will certainly be different without the likes of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers in it, and the next generation of Avengers will have some big shoes to fill when it’s their time to shine.

But seeing as how we’ve already met the likely candidate for the new Iron Man way back in Iron Man 3 (and again at Tony’s funeral in Endgame), chances are we’ll be hearing “I am Iron Man” again sooner rather than later.


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